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I'm working on a game that preferiblypreferably should feature a combination of designed and proceduallyprocedurally generated terrain where the designer specifies in somewhat detailed terms what type of terrain a given area will have (grasslands, forest etc...) and then a precedualprocedural algorithm takes care of the rest. I'm not talking about minecraft style biomoes, but rather the game map for a strategy game.

Each 'area' will not take up that much of the screen, and thus be more akin to a tile whose texture is proceduallyprocedurally generated. While proceduallyprocedurally generating terrain textures on the GPU are not that difficult, the hard part is making the borders between them look good. Currently, the 'tiles' are large enough to be visible (due to memory constraints mainly, we are talking planetary sized textures for a game taking place in space and on a continental ground view with seamless transitions between them) and creating good borders between them with an algorithm that is fast enough to be useful has proven difficult. Sampling the n-surrounding pixels and using the combienedcombined result did not yield very good borders and was fairly slow on the GPU to boot (ca 12ms for me, that is without any lighninglighting or shading and with very simple terrain texture shaders).

So are there any practical known methods to solve this problem?

Edit:

To clarify, the 'tiles' are there only out of nessecitynecessity and the whole idea is to make them essentially vanish entirely. This screenshot shows how the terrain looks like right now when the camera is zoomed in about as much as will be possible in the game, with no lighinglighting and very simple texture shaders.

http://s7.postimage.org/y67o03swb/terrain_Sample.png

While the 'internal' borders of each terrain type looks passable, the borders between different terrain types are far too sharp and really exposes the technical details. Shrinking terrain types further is not an option, as that will increase memory usage far too much and it did not actually solve the problem entirely in my test runs.

The good thing is that nearly all GPU resources will be devoted to rendering terrain, so there is room to work there.

Finally, having it done on the GPU both avoids the memory problem and makes it easier to make the terrain morphic without significant runtime slowdowns when large scale terrain changes happen. As the game will have methods to radically change terrain, though only in the large-scale sense, having it be morphic is a requirement.

I'm working on a game that preferibly should feature a combination of designed and procedually generated terrain where the designer specifies in somewhat detailed terms what type of terrain a given area will have (grasslands, forest etc...) and then a precedual algorithm takes care of the rest. I'm not talking about minecraft style biomoes, but rather the game map for a strategy game.

Each 'area' will not take up that much of the screen, and thus be more akin to a tile whose texture is procedually generated. While procedually generating terrain textures on the GPU are not that difficult, the hard part is making the borders between them look good. Currently, the 'tiles' are large enough to be visible (due to memory constraints mainly, we are talking planetary sized textures for a game taking place in space and on a continental ground view with seamless transitions between them) and creating good borders between them with an algorithm that is fast enough to be useful has proven difficult. Sampling the n-surrounding pixels and using the combiened result did not yield very good borders and was fairly slow on the GPU to boot (ca 12ms for me, that is without any lighning or shading and with very simple terrain texture shaders).

So are there any practical known methods to solve this problem?

Edit:

To clarify, the 'tiles' are there only out of nessecity and the whole idea is to make them essentially vanish entirely. This screenshot shows how the terrain looks like right now when the camera is zoomed in about as much as will be possible in the game, with no lighing and very simple texture shaders.

http://s7.postimage.org/y67o03swb/terrain_Sample.png

While the 'internal' borders of each terrain type looks passable, the borders between different terrain types are far too sharp and really exposes the technical details. Shrinking terrain types further is not an option, as that will increase memory usage far too much and it did not actually solve the problem entirely in my test runs.

The good thing is that nearly all GPU resources will be devoted to rendering terrain, so there is room to work there.

Finally, having it done on the GPU both avoids the memory problem and makes it easier to make the terrain morphic without significant runtime slowdowns when large scale terrain changes happen. As the game will have methods to radically change terrain, though only in the large-scale sense, having it be morphic is a requirement.

I'm working on a game that preferably should feature a combination of designed and procedurally generated terrain where the designer specifies in somewhat detailed terms what type of terrain a given area will have (grasslands, forest etc...) and then a procedural algorithm takes care of the rest. I'm not talking about minecraft style biomoes, but rather the game map for a strategy game.

Each 'area' will not take up that much of the screen, and thus be more akin to a tile whose texture is procedurally generated. While procedurally generating terrain textures on the GPU are not that difficult, the hard part is making the borders between them look good. Currently, the 'tiles' are large enough to be visible (due to memory constraints mainly, we are talking planetary sized textures for a game taking place in space and on a continental ground view with seamless transitions between them) and creating good borders between them with an algorithm that is fast enough to be useful has proven difficult. Sampling the n-surrounding pixels and using the combined result did not yield very good borders and was fairly slow on the GPU to boot (ca 12ms for me, that is without any lighting or shading and with very simple terrain texture shaders).

So are there any practical known methods to solve this problem?

Edit:

To clarify, the 'tiles' are there only out of necessity and the whole idea is to make them essentially vanish entirely. This screenshot shows how the terrain looks like right now when the camera is zoomed in about as much as will be possible in the game, with no lighting and very simple texture shaders.

http://s7.postimage.org/y67o03swb/terrain_Sample.png

While the 'internal' borders of each terrain type looks passable, the borders between different terrain types are far too sharp and really exposes the technical details. Shrinking terrain types further is not an option, as that will increase memory usage far too much and it did not actually solve the problem entirely in my test runs.

The good thing is that nearly all GPU resources will be devoted to rendering terrain, so there is room to work there.

Finally, having it done on the GPU both avoids the memory problem and makes it easier to make the terrain morphic without significant runtime slowdowns when large scale terrain changes happen. As the game will have methods to radically change terrain, though only in the large-scale sense, having it be morphic is a requirement.

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I'm working on a game that preferibly should feature a combination of designed and procedually generated terrain where the designer specifies in somewhat detailed terms what type of terrain a given area will have (grasslands, forest etc...) and then a precedual algorithm takes care of the rest. I'm not talking about minecraft style biomoes, but rather the game map for a strategy game.

Each 'area' will not take up that much of the screen, and thus be more akin to a tile whose texture is procedually generated. While procedually generating terrain textures on the GPU are not that difficult, the hard part is making the borders between them look good. Currently, the 'tiles' are large enough to be visible (due to memory constraints mainly, we are talking planetary sized textures for a game taking place in space and on a continental ground view with seamless transitions between them) and creating good borders between them with an algorithm that is fast enough to be useful has proven difficult. Sampling the n-surrounding pixels and using the combiened result did not yield very good borders and was fairly slow on the GPU to boot (ca 12ms for me, that is without any lighning or shading and with very simple terrain texture shaders).

So are there any practical known methods to solve this problem?

Edit:

To clarify, the 'tiles' are there only out of nessecity and the whole idea is to make them essentially vanish entirely. This screenshot shows how the terrain looks like right now when the camera is zoomed in about as much as will be possible in the game, with no lighing and very simple texture shaders.

http://s7.postimage.org/y67o03swb/terrain_Sample.png

While the 'internal' borders of each terrain type looks passable, the borders between different terrain types are far too sharp and really exposes the technical details. Shrinking terrain types further is not an option, as that will increase memory usage far too much and it did not actually solve the problem entirely in my test runs.

The good thing is that nearly all GPU resources will be devoted to rendering terrain, so there is room to work there.

Finally, having it done on the GPU both avoids the memory problem and makes it easier to make the terrain morphic without significant runtime slowdowns when large scale terrain changes happen. As the game will have methods to radically change terrain, though only in the large-scale sense, having it be morphic is a requirement.

I'm working on a game that preferibly should feature a combination of designed and procedually generated terrain where the designer specifies in somewhat detailed terms what type of terrain a given area will have (grasslands, forest etc...) and then a precedual algorithm takes care of the rest. I'm not talking about minecraft style biomoes, but rather the game map for a strategy game.

Each 'area' will not take up that much of the screen, and thus be more akin to a tile whose texture is procedually generated. While procedually generating terrain textures on the GPU are not that difficult, the hard part is making the borders between them look good. Currently, the 'tiles' are large enough to be visible (due to memory constraints mainly, we are talking planetary sized textures for a game taking place in space and on a continental ground view with seamless transitions between them) and creating good borders between them with an algorithm that is fast enough to be useful has proven difficult. Sampling the n-surrounding pixels and using the combiened result did not yield very good borders and was fairly slow on the GPU to boot (ca 12ms for me, that is without any lighning or shading and with very simple terrain texture shaders).

So are there any practical known methods to solve this problem?

Edit:

To clarify, the 'tiles' are there only out of nessecity and the whole idea is to make them essentially vanish entirely. This screenshot shows how the terrain looks like right now when the camera is zoomed in about as much as will be possible in the game, with no lighing and very simple texture shaders.

http://s7.postimage.org/y67o03swb/terrain_Sample.png

While the 'internal' borders of each terrain type looks passable, the borders between different terrain types are far too sharp and really exposes the technical details. Shrinking terrain types further is not an option, as that will increase memory usage far too much and it did not actually solve the problem entirely in my test runs.

The good thing is that nearly all GPU resources will be devoted to rendering terrain, so there is room to work there.

I'm working on a game that preferibly should feature a combination of designed and procedually generated terrain where the designer specifies in somewhat detailed terms what type of terrain a given area will have (grasslands, forest etc...) and then a precedual algorithm takes care of the rest. I'm not talking about minecraft style biomoes, but rather the game map for a strategy game.

Each 'area' will not take up that much of the screen, and thus be more akin to a tile whose texture is procedually generated. While procedually generating terrain textures on the GPU are not that difficult, the hard part is making the borders between them look good. Currently, the 'tiles' are large enough to be visible (due to memory constraints mainly, we are talking planetary sized textures for a game taking place in space and on a continental ground view with seamless transitions between them) and creating good borders between them with an algorithm that is fast enough to be useful has proven difficult. Sampling the n-surrounding pixels and using the combiened result did not yield very good borders and was fairly slow on the GPU to boot (ca 12ms for me, that is without any lighning or shading and with very simple terrain texture shaders).

So are there any practical known methods to solve this problem?

Edit:

To clarify, the 'tiles' are there only out of nessecity and the whole idea is to make them essentially vanish entirely. This screenshot shows how the terrain looks like right now when the camera is zoomed in about as much as will be possible in the game, with no lighing and very simple texture shaders.

http://s7.postimage.org/y67o03swb/terrain_Sample.png

While the 'internal' borders of each terrain type looks passable, the borders between different terrain types are far too sharp and really exposes the technical details. Shrinking terrain types further is not an option, as that will increase memory usage far too much and it did not actually solve the problem entirely in my test runs.

The good thing is that nearly all GPU resources will be devoted to rendering terrain, so there is room to work there.

Finally, having it done on the GPU both avoids the memory problem and makes it easier to make the terrain morphic without significant runtime slowdowns when large scale terrain changes happen. As the game will have methods to radically change terrain, though only in the large-scale sense, having it be morphic is a requirement.

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I'm working on a game that preferibly should feature a combination of designed and procedually generated terrain where the designer specifies in somewhat detailed terms what type of terrain a given area will have (grasslands, forest etc...) and then a precedual algorithm takes care of the rest. I'm not talking about minecraft style biomoes, but rather the game map for a strategy game.

Each 'area' will not take up that much of the screen, and thus be more akin to a tile whose texture is procedually generated. While procedually generating terrain textures on the GPU are not that difficult, the hard part is making the borders between them look good. Currently, the 'tiles' are large enough to be visible (due to memory constraints mainly, we are talking planetary sized textures for a game taking place in space and on a continental ground view with seamless transitions between them) and creating good borders between them with an algorithm that is fast enough to be useful has proven difficult. Sampling the n-surrounding pixels and using the combiened result did not yield very good borders and was fairly slow on the GPU to boot (ca 12ms for me, that is without any lighning or shading and with very simple terrain texture shaders).

So are there any practical known methods to solve this problem?

Edit:

To clarify, the 'tiles' are there only out of nessecity and the whole idea is to make them essentially vanish entirely. This screenshot shows how the terrain looks like right now when the camera is zoomed in about as much as will be possible in the game, with no lighing and very simple texture shaders.

http://s7.postimage.org/y67o03swb/terrain_Sample.png

While the 'internal' borders of each terrain type looks passable, the borders between different terrain types are far too sharp and really exposes the technical details. Shrinking terrain types further is not an option, as that will increase memory usage far too much and it did not actually solve the problem entirely in my test runs.

The good thing is that nearly all GPU resources will be devoted to rendering terrain, so there is room to work there.

I'm working on a game that preferibly should feature a combination of designed and procedually generated terrain where the designer specifies in somewhat detailed terms what type of terrain a given area will have (grasslands, forest etc...) and then a precedual algorithm takes care of the rest. I'm not talking about minecraft style biomoes, but rather the game map for a strategy game.

Each 'area' will not take up that much of the screen, and thus be more akin to a tile whose texture is procedually generated. While procedually generating terrain textures on the GPU are not that difficult, the hard part is making the borders between them look good. Currently, the 'tiles' are large enough to be visible (due to memory constraints mainly, we are talking planetary sized textures for a game taking place in space and on a continental ground view with seamless transitions between them) and creating good borders between them with an algorithm that is fast enough to be useful has proven difficult. Sampling the n-surrounding pixels and using the combiened result did not yield very good borders and was fairly slow on the GPU to boot (ca 12ms for me, that is without any lighning or shading and with very simple terrain texture shaders).

So are there any practical known methods to solve this problem?

I'm working on a game that preferibly should feature a combination of designed and procedually generated terrain where the designer specifies in somewhat detailed terms what type of terrain a given area will have (grasslands, forest etc...) and then a precedual algorithm takes care of the rest. I'm not talking about minecraft style biomoes, but rather the game map for a strategy game.

Each 'area' will not take up that much of the screen, and thus be more akin to a tile whose texture is procedually generated. While procedually generating terrain textures on the GPU are not that difficult, the hard part is making the borders between them look good. Currently, the 'tiles' are large enough to be visible (due to memory constraints mainly, we are talking planetary sized textures for a game taking place in space and on a continental ground view with seamless transitions between them) and creating good borders between them with an algorithm that is fast enough to be useful has proven difficult. Sampling the n-surrounding pixels and using the combiened result did not yield very good borders and was fairly slow on the GPU to boot (ca 12ms for me, that is without any lighning or shading and with very simple terrain texture shaders).

So are there any practical known methods to solve this problem?

Edit:

To clarify, the 'tiles' are there only out of nessecity and the whole idea is to make them essentially vanish entirely. This screenshot shows how the terrain looks like right now when the camera is zoomed in about as much as will be possible in the game, with no lighing and very simple texture shaders.

http://s7.postimage.org/y67o03swb/terrain_Sample.png

While the 'internal' borders of each terrain type looks passable, the borders between different terrain types are far too sharp and really exposes the technical details. Shrinking terrain types further is not an option, as that will increase memory usage far too much and it did not actually solve the problem entirely in my test runs.

The good thing is that nearly all GPU resources will be devoted to rendering terrain, so there is room to work there.

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