Being bored I decided to make my game isometric by applying a simple filter effect.
g.scale(1f, 0.5f);
g.rotate(400, c.getHeight() / 2, 45);
It works great, but now everything appears... flat.
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Your technique could work, to some limited extent, but you don't want to apply the same transformations for the objects that are supposed to be standing. For these, make a simple "skew", as illustrated here:
The second rotation might not be the inverse of the first as it depends on the scale factor. The important thing is that the vertical lines are actually vertical, i.e, aligned with the y axis (look at the dashed lines). Also, you might want to scale back a little. This is more important for doors than characters.
But still, as the commenters said, if this project goes beyond boredom avoid this method and begin making isometric art with a regular grid :)
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\$\begingroup\$ True, but i can't read the word above the 3rd arrow. \$\endgroup\$ – George Duckett Oct 25 '11 at 15:22
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\$\begingroup\$ @Raine, ahh that makes sense. It looking quite different to the first one threw me. \$\endgroup\$ – George Duckett Oct 25 '11 at 15:43
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3\$\begingroup\$ The skew works well for flat vertical objects like doors or walls, but for things like creatures it'll probably look better if you just apply no transformation at all. But, as Diego says, for best results you really should be drawing your tiles in isometric perspective to begin with. That, or go fully 3D. \$\endgroup\$ – Ilmari Karonen Oct 25 '11 at 16:19
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It looks fine. Since an isometric projection is essentially a rotation followed by an orthographic projection there should be no foreshortening - and hence a limited perception of depth etc.
So my take is, keep going.
- Put some taller buildings in. Obstruction should help create a sense of depth.
- Create shadows if you can (if you use actual 3d models to generate an isometric view out of them, you can use shadow volumes to get accurate shadows with little effort from artists (but a lot from programmers)
- Add moving characters (again characters going behind visual obstructions will help)
- Reduce the view the person has / zoom in a bit. This will help it look less map like (ala simcity 2000)
and more "overhead view" like (ala starcraft)
The more you zoom out, the more the brain starts to expect perspective / the player thinks he's looking at a map
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\$\begingroup\$ Great answer and a much simpler solution if you already have flat isometric map rendering nicely. + 1 \$\endgroup\$ – Darren Reid Nov 10 '11 at 8:32
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You need differences in shadow heights, to make the isometry more believable. Higher objects cast longer shadows. Try it, you'll see an improvement right away.
All your edges which face upwards have very little definition. In real life, we recognize edges on a glance by a change in contrast between one surface and another. Your contrast (change in tone) is very slight between your top grey and bottom grey. Add to that the very fine brick detail -- I would emphasise that a lot. Also not that gaps between bricks aren't just a dark shade, more often than not you'll see highlighted edges contrasted directly adjacent to deep shadow. You have zero highlights -- of course things will look flat. Check this out as an example:
(from here) And yes, I know it's perspectival and not orthogonal. The point is the lighting.
isometric artfor examples. \$\endgroup\$ – thedaian Oct 25 '11 at 8:35