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I'm trying to make a opengl wrapper for winforms(.net). Basically you code in gdi+ syntax but it gets rendered for opengl(using glcontrol of opentk).

Which mode should I use for rendering ui? It has to be fast enough to support lagless animations and image-drawing. Direct mode (glBegin, glEnd) is easy but I've read there are performance issues. On the other hand, retained mode will be relatively much complex to implement.

My preference is first make for immediate mode then move to retained as I progress. Are there any issues with immediate mode(like missing functionality

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    \$\begingroup\$ As far as I know, "Inmediate" and "Retained" is a lingo that was adopted from DirectX, having "Inmediate Mode" to mean what OpenGL calls "Direct Mode" (that is glBegin and glEnd) that's deprecated since OpenGL 3.0. Btw, if you think "Retained Mode" is glNewList et.al. that's deprecated too. So, use Vertext Buffer Objects. You need to redraw each frame because that is how GDI+ works. Some people would say that that is still "Inmediate Mode" if you send them each frame... well, call it whatever you want, that's what you gotta do. \$\endgroup\$
    – Theraot
    Feb 18, 2017 at 6:48
  • \$\begingroup\$ Uh,sorry I was a bit confused b/w dx ang gl. Just sayin', only the syntax resembles gdi+ (drawline, drawretc, clear etc.), not the actual functionality. \$\endgroup\$ Feb 18, 2017 at 7:43
  • \$\begingroup\$ So, are you suggesting that if I use VBOs in the 'direct' mode (glBegin and glEnd), I'll be good to go? \$\endgroup\$ Feb 18, 2017 at 7:45
  • \$\begingroup\$ glBegin and glEnd not at all. If you want to use up to date techniques, try OpenGL in C# – an object oriented introduction to OpenTK \$\endgroup\$
    – Theraot
    Feb 18, 2017 at 8:36
  • \$\begingroup\$ I'm just going to throw this out there for anyone coming by. WPF (Winforms's successor) uses retained rendering and gets huge performance benefits because of it. \$\endgroup\$ Jun 27, 2018 at 14:15

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Immediate mode in OpenGL consists of glBegin/glEnd calls, with one or more glVertex calls (the minimum legal number depending on the mode param of your glBegin call), and optionally other vertex attribute specification calls (glColor, glTexCoord, etc), between them.

  • glBegin instructs the GL driver that you're starting to draw a point, line or polygon.
  • glTexCoord, glColor, glNormal, etc just set a "current value" for the texture coordinate, colour, normal, etc.
  • glVertex takes those "current values", together with the position information that you supply with the glVertex call, and transfers the lot to the driver.
  • glEnd completes the point, line or polygon.

The major advantage to immediate mode is that you need to plan absolutely nothing up-front. You can just issue a glBegin call and start sending aribtrary geometry to your driver and hardware.

The major disadvantages to immediate mode include that it incurs a lot of function call overhead into the GL driver, and that vertex data must always be sent to the graphics hardware, even if that vertex data is unchanged from last time it was used.

These disadvantages can combine to make immediate mode slow. How slow? Well, faster than you might think (and definitely faster than some people might give you the impression it is). Quake and Quake II both used immediate mode so it's clearly quite capable of handling certain workloads with acceptable performance.

The first disadvantage was addressed in OpenGL 1.1 (1997) by the addition of vertex arrays, which allowed for the number of GL calls to specify a point, line or polygon, which could easily get into double figures, to drop to one (not including some setup calls).

The second disadvantage was addressed in OpenGL 1.5 (2003) by the addition of vertex buffer objects, which built on the vertex array specification and which allowed for data that didn't need to change to be kept in GPU memory.

I draw attention to these dates and version numbers because, and once again contrary to information you may see elsewhere, these are actually very old additions to OpenGL (both were in fact added before shaders were) and are widely available even on low-end commodity hardware.

What you are calling retained mode is primarily use of vertex buffer objects as a source for vertex data rather than just specifying it on-the-fly via immediate mode.

Modern OpenGL is the term typically used to refer to a usage of OpenGL in which vertex buffer objects and shaders are the only way of drawing available, being constrained by what is known as a "core profile". It is also possible to create what is known as a "compatibility profile" giving you the ability to mix certain features of modern and old-style OpenGL; mixing immediate mode with shaders would be one example.


Which should you use?

There's no clear-cut answer to this; it's really going to depend on the needs of your program.

Immediate mode, because of it's on-the-fly nature, is great for prototyping and fast iteration of new code.

The performance penalties of immediate mode primarily mount up as the polygon count increases, but yet we have seen from the examples of Quake and Quake II that there is a point at which it's still plenty fast enough.

Immediate mode, being older, might seem as though it's more compatible but that's not actually the case. It's not available on mobile devices at all for example; these primarily use OpenGL ES which has no immediate mode.

Immediate mode has been removed from OpenGL core profiles, so if you're using a GL core profile you won't have it available either.

Using vertex buffer objects requires a certain amount of up-front investment; you need to plan out your buffer usage and update strategy, and a poorly thought-out buffer object implementation can actually run slower than immediate mode (primarily by introducing multiple CPU/GPU sync points). On the other hand, get it right and if your workload is heavy enough you'll go 10s or 100s of times faster.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Upvoted. By the way, there are 3 if not more Quake and GLQuake ports that are still being fixed up to this date, the MS-DOS version is the most stable of all of them. \$\endgroup\$
    – user124631
    Dec 7, 2020 at 4:30

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